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Michel Wuest
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:16 pm 

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spekoun wrote:
Here is my simple test

I used displacement for grass and several instances fot trees.
I have to tweek grass material, because render is very slow. I rendered 3000x2000 resolution and sl1 took 1h28m!!! But grass looks quite goo, i think.

P.S: trees are made with X-frog, exported from Cinemaxwell (no studio used)


Hy spekoun
can you share the grass material ore the trees ore the whole scene?
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JTB
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:52 pm 

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Great image, is it possible to share some disp details? Also a wireframe view would be nice, I want to see the ground object, to see how hi or low poly it is.

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instancing rocks...

i'm currently rendering a test image with 50 million polys...

1200 instanced trees...... each one having 50'000 polys...

and RAM's not even close to being an issue...

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Very nice render Spekoun ! bravo... :D

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two questions to bionatics/maya users.

-->
1)
if a bionatics natFX plant is duplicated, will the copy be automatically generated with a different look?

2)
is there some kind of brush tool available for placing plants on terrains ?

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Bionatics/Max user here.

1. No. It will have the same "seed". So if one changes, they all will.
2. In Max I use particle flow or crowd helper to scatter instances of trees.

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spekoun
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Hi everybody

I found displacement very sensitive. It depends on every setting: map, precision, and mash subdivision.

My test image came out good, but when i used these settings in scene, result was not so good. So it is hard to share or recommend something. My settings was: subdivision of plane - 5x5cm one square (points of plane were dispalced in model a little too), 6cm height dispalecement with 46 precision. Displacement map I can mail to you, resizing is imposible, it losts needed details, just p.m. me.

But displaced grass makes render times very long. I am trying to find some displacement setting with ground plane subdivision, which will not need so much time and will look good too. But no succes for now... :(

Here is my last try:
(btw: why there is a white line where water touches pool side? I did not find problem.)

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Michel Wuest
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hey Spekoun,

Which grass-material are you useed for this test from the mxm-Galery?

And i think it would look nearly simular without displacement.
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I made my own mxm a textures. But myps are 5000x5000 so I can not share them here. Just P.M. me ind will e-mail them to you...

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Where the grass stops it looks bad...can you use something to hide these borders?

It would look nice with instances too.... A grass blade and some thousands of instances...

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A photoshop grass blade brush would work wonders on the edges.

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Bubbaloo wrote:
A photoshop grass blade brush would work wonders on the edges.


That too... I've used it once....

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guys...

what are the highest resolutions for 2D trees (with proper alpha) available on the market ?

e.g.
http://www.archvision.com/HiResTrees.cfm
--> 2500 px

what are the best trees to buy ? where ?

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Check these
Code:
http://vyonyx.com/index.php/category/down/cutout-trees

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Mate I downloaded those the other day and they seem to be blown up from low resolution trees. Not the best quality!
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