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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:41 pm 
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just tried the Metal_9011_graphite black and it turns out in a goldish colour.... how come? Did you mix something?

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:51 pm 
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I'm assuming you made no changes? did you apply this material with a plugin? Did you try opening the scene in studio and applying the material there?

It should look exactly as the preview -- but you are the second person I know who has had unexpected problems. I rendered on all of them on the Simball to make absolutely sure they worked properly.

This is why I asked for tests...


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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:41 pm 
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Something occurred to me -- the 1.7 version of Maxwell materials required the R2 parameter to be an external file... if the plugin you are using is still using that modality then the material will not look right without an external R2 file.

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:29 pm 
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all I see inspecting that material is an gold.ior file that is used for 5 BSDFs with different weight and roughness values from 0-40.
no other colors given anywhere so this looks golden everytime I try it, no matter which metal.

(using this via Cinemaxwell)

the other materials render fine as far as I tried them.

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:30 pm 
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does it look the same in MXED?

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:33 pm 
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The reason I ask is there is no gold IOR file in them -- I set the Nd and K for the Nd and K of gold (like the material wizard) and I think the plugin is doing some sort of auto convert that is killing the material.

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:44 pm 
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If I'm right then the plugin will most likely also do some sort of auto convert to the Car Paint as well...

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:51 pm 
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car paint works fine here... but I'll give the metal a short try with the MXED. results will be psted tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:57 pm 
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Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:38 pm 
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found out how to get them back to work: open the material and switch the IOR Modes in every BSDF channel to Custom mode. Then the original settings are used.


(Btw: using the gold.ior on the lower 3 BSDF and something dark on the upper 2 gives some really nice tints to the metal)

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:00 pm 
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Cool, I'm glad you got to the bottom of it for me -- that is a big relief... also I am making a note of the trick you mentioned for future use :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:14 pm 
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I informed JD and he'll have a look at the plugin and why it behaves that way...

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:06 pm 

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I'm confused on the IES lights. I downloaded your mxm files as well as the models. I was hoping I could put the files in the same folder, sort by name, and end up with the .mxm file right next to it's corresponding .3ds model. However the names don't seem to match up? I don't know much about the naming convention so maybe I'm just not understanding?

For example, I thought it would look like this...
erco_33485000_1xtc-d_26w.mxm
erco_33485000_1xtc-d_26w.3ds
erco_33496000_1xhit-de-ce_150w_shield-open.mxm
erco_33496000_1xhit-de-ce_150w_shield-open.3ds
etc.

But none of the mxm's seem to have a corresponding 3ds model with the same name. What am I missing? Is it because I downloaded the English/US zip file for the models? How do you know which model goes with which mxm?

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:00 pm 
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Bear in mind ERCO is primarily european -- if you want to use the US fixtures you will need to download the US IES files here:

http://www.erco.com/products/download/others/downloaddat_3992/en/en_downloaddat_dltut_1.php?aktion=nop&sprache=en&dir=40_planning_luminaire/25_ies/00005_complete

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 Post subject: Re: Fun stuff.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:34 pm 

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I don't really care if they're US or not, really. So which one should I download to match up with the mxm's you created then, "English, Europe 230V/50Hz"?

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